tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post3249183345157739382..comments2023-12-22T14:33:15.754-08:00Comments on Playoff Guru: Does Auburn Have a Bye on Saturday?Samuel Chihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07694013336972776957noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-33438410034059110542010-12-03T12:23:22.440-08:002010-12-03T12:23:22.440-08:00I must confess that the ESPN blowhards who were ta...I must confess that the ESPN blowhards who were talking all year long about Boise State "could beat any team in one game" suddenly shifted gears the moment that Nevada beat the Broncos. Now they suddenly want to talk about the Frogs' "easy schedule."<br /><br />I can concur with a lot of those points. But those points did not suddenly become true just because Boise lost; they were ALREADY true. The one difference is that TCU does not demand home-and-home as part of the ruse.<br /><br />It's funny to watch the media arbiters of reality. I'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that TCU tends to play more games on networks like Fox Southwest than Boise plays on ESPN (which seemed to be nearly every week).Bill Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16230613559896591748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-35913815055738306272010-12-02T09:09:22.625-08:002010-12-02T09:09:22.625-08:00If Auburn and Oregon lose, then it is open season ...If Auburn and Oregon lose, then it is open season to the voters. TCU will be No. 1 but No. 2 will be a battle between Wisconsin and Stanford.<br /><br />Stanford might win out --- it has better computer numbers, and the Big Ten vote will be split between Ohio State and Wisconsin. I think a lot of folks will respect Stanford's road loss to Oregon a lot more than Oregon's loss to a very average Oregon State team.<br /><br />As to Auburn, a lot of voters are disgusted with the Cam Newton scandal and really would like a reason to punish Auburn. But SEC folks will vote for Auburn in into the BCS CG (and get help from voters from the Sun Belt schools and even fellow Southerners in the ACC)....PetePnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-60252745861291192382010-12-02T09:02:20.082-08:002010-12-02T09:02:20.082-08:00TCU is not destroying any of its athletic programs...TCU is not destroying any of its athletic programs by joining the Big East.<br /><br />And while its MBB has been pretty bad, it has been improving in a very underrated MWC (4 of 9 teams in the Big Dance last season, 3 ranked teams currently).<br /><br />All of TCU's sports will be getting a huge upgrade and TCU will no longer have to worry about playing 4 bad MWC teams that drag on its computer rankings....PetePnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-88862717229753368332010-12-01T07:32:30.011-08:002010-12-01T07:32:30.011-08:00If TCU beats Wisconsin, will that reduce Wisconsin...If TCU beats Wisconsin, will that reduce Wisconsin to "Little Sisters of the Poor" status. If so, what would that mean to Ohio State who lost to Wisconsin.<br /><br />I do agree that if Connecticut is the Big East champion, the Orange Bowl will strongly consider Stanford in spite of their poor travel status.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-84614810559754549902010-11-30T17:46:12.421-08:002010-11-30T17:46:12.421-08:00TCU destroying all of its athletic programs? Reall...TCU destroying all of its athletic programs? Really? <br /><br />Hardly. Men's BBall, yes. Everything else? No sir.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-89822760323163687712010-11-30T11:51:07.376-08:002010-11-30T11:51:07.376-08:00Sagarin's strength of schedules:
60. Michigan ...Sagarin's strength of schedules:<br />60. Michigan State<br />62. Boise State<br />64. Ohio State<br />71. Wisconsin<br />76. TCU<br /><br />Six Pac-10 teams are in the top nine.<br /><br />Just pointing it out.LAprGuynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-15196556954603451752010-11-30T10:49:44.902-08:002010-11-30T10:49:44.902-08:00As much as I would like to see TCU play for the BC...As much as I would like to see TCU play for the BCS title, it's probably best in the long run that they don't. If they do go, the BCS big wigs will say "See, it works for everyone" and set the push for a playoff behind a little bit. <br /><br />What happens if both Oregon and Auburn lose? TCU would be in, but would Wisconsin get the nod because they actually won their conference?Patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-71545623876946193492010-11-30T09:20:10.305-08:002010-11-30T09:20:10.305-08:00I don't see how the voters would conscientious...I don't see how the voters would conscientiously choose to allow Auburn to play in the National Championship game after losing to South Carolina.<br /><br />With all of the suspicion and smoke surrounding Cam Newton, why risk having a National Championship game forfeiture possibility down the road? Why would you possibly give Auburn the benefit of the doubt at this point when it's entirely plausible that Newton will be ruled ineligible after the season is over?<br /><br />The voters will use the Auburn loss as a chance to ensure that there will be no asterisks on this season. It'd be impossible for them to do that now with Auburn still undefeated, but once Auburn loses, they will fall far enough where there will be a championship game that doesn't have a dark cloud hanging over it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-75453425717318519352010-11-30T08:50:41.001-08:002010-11-30T08:50:41.001-08:00Bob Davie on Colin Cowherd: How can you leave Aubu...Bob Davie on Colin Cowherd: How can you leave Auburn out of the NCG after playing one of the greatest college football games (ever), while TCU is playing New Mexico?<br /><br />Again, going to be interesting to see how the coaches put their pens to paper if Auburn (or Oregon) loses. It's not going to be a simple as simple moving up or down 1 spot. But since we can't see how the coaches are ranking the teams individually now, we won't know which coaches will be rigging the system.LAprGuynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-75675581747971451652010-11-30T05:14:16.631-08:002010-11-30T05:14:16.631-08:00After a loss, the smallest marginal loss in the te...After a loss, the smallest marginal loss in the teams' BCS rating was .25, plus or minus a few thousandths. That type of drop would put them at #5-#8. <br /><br />Why do you think that auburn with a loss will go up from .9779 to .9800? <br /><br />Ivan Maisel has essentially said it's impossible for auburn or oregon to play for the national championship with a loss in week 15, but to Ivan you would say "not so fast"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-68892991775033693472010-11-29T22:24:14.341-08:002010-11-29T22:24:14.341-08:00Doesn't the order of choosing of Stanford and ...Doesn't the order of choosing of Stanford and the Big East champ depend largely on who the Big East champ is? With the Orange Bowl choosing before the Fiesta, wouldn't they choose Stanford over UConn, should that scenario arise, sending UConn to the Fiesta? I understand West Virginia's more desirable than Stanford, but UConn?Kurt Sahrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17911104440232517638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-73879147294613606612010-11-29T22:00:12.032-08:002010-11-29T22:00:12.032-08:00What if both Oregon and Auburn were to lose and th...What if both Oregon and Auburn were to lose and the "coaches" want to vote in a deliberate way to ensure a TCU vs Wisconsin matchup in the BCS Championship Game by filling in their ballots in the following way:<br /><br />1. TCU<br />2. Wisconsin<br />3. Ohio State<br />4. Oregon<br />5. Auburn<br />6. Stanford<br /><br />Would that guarantee a TCU vs Wisconsin BCS Championship Game?<br /><br />Would that also end up screwing Stanford out of the BCS (because Stanford would drop to #5 or #6 in the final BCS rankings), as the bowls would select the following teams?<br /><br />BCS Championship - # 1 TCU vs #2 Wisconsin<br />Rose Bowl - #5 Oregon vs #3 Ohio State<br />Sugar Bowl - South Carolina vs #14 Oklahoma State<br />Orange Bowl - ACC Champion vs #4 Auburn<br />Fiesta Bowl - Big 12 Champion vs Big East ChampionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-75798427835164185652010-11-29T19:06:26.885-08:002010-11-29T19:06:26.885-08:00(The above, of course, was in the event of an Aubu...(The above, of course, was in the event of an Auburn loss. And I still think we'd see verrry funny voting if that happened to manipulate the BCS games. Ah well.)LAprGuynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6331918571067993675.post-39552270581254456612010-11-29T19:03:42.546-08:002010-11-29T19:03:42.546-08:00Good call here, Guru.
The "what we don'...Good call here, Guru. <br /><br />The "what we don't know" component is whether the Coaches and Mysterious Harris Voters will sufficiently "punish" Auburn enough in their rankings to ensure they don't end up number two. That's where I think Gilmore or James was heading on Sunday: That how will the voters re-evalutate their ballots to manipulate the game they want -- no longer an automatic slotting but a deliberate reordering of Top 10s to change the system. (And then there was Gilmore's whole point of unlinking Boise and TCU, which he didn't explain well, but I can see where Coaches and MHVs might do this.)<br /><br />Along those lines, whose to say that 30 coaches won't reorder the Big Ten rankings to change the Rose Bowl order? It probably won't happen ... but it could.<br /><br />Stanford's still the third best team I've watched on TV. If Auburn loses, the Cardinal are to get screwed by Coaches and MHVs to ensure they don't rematch with Oregon -- I'd bet their voter rankings will fall below the Big Ten 11-1 teams.LAprGuynoreply@blogger.com